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		<title>Comment on A Material World by Sam Bleakly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Bleakly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those hair question pigs.

Cheers.  :)

And yes, he was indeed trying to hit on you.

He just needs a more masculine hook next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those hair question pigs.</p>
<p>Cheers.  :)</p>
<p>And yes, he was indeed trying to hit on you.</p>
<p>He just needs a more masculine hook next time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trading Spaces by jennfields</title>
		<link>http://southoftheloop.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/trading-spaces/#comment-7365</link>
		<dc:creator>jennfields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bird by Bird was one of the first writing books I ever read, and it&#039;s still my favorite. Hope you love it! (And hope you never feel like a sack of spider puke, to quote Lamott.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bird by Bird was one of the first writing books I ever read, and it&#8217;s still my favorite. Hope you love it! (And hope you never feel like a sack of spider puke, to quote Lamott.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on My, What Big Paws You Have! by carol</title>
		<link>http://southoftheloop.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/my-what-big-paws-you-have/#comment-7355</link>
		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my what big CLAWS you have, monte.

awesome photos, laura!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my what big CLAWS you have, monte.</p>
<p>awesome photos, laura!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Close Encounters by Jen J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not funny, and good for you for telling the sender you were offended.  I don&#039;t know that we&#039;ll ever be able to totally eradicate racism/ sexism/ homophobia etc, but I bet it would be much less widespread if more people just spoke up in the face of stupidity.  Otherwise well-intentioned people like your friend forward (via email or through more traditional means) inanities like that all day long.  Imagine if everyone who got them, instead of silently cringing on the inside, simply said:  &quot;that&#039;s not funny, dude.  that&#039;s just stupid.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not funny, and good for you for telling the sender you were offended.  I don&#8217;t know that we&#8217;ll ever be able to totally eradicate racism/ sexism/ homophobia etc, but I bet it would be much less widespread if more people just spoke up in the face of stupidity.  Otherwise well-intentioned people like your friend forward (via email or through more traditional means) inanities like that all day long.  Imagine if everyone who got them, instead of silently cringing on the inside, simply said:  &#8220;that&#8217;s not funny, dude.  that&#8217;s just stupid.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Close Encounters by Braden</title>
		<link>http://southoftheloop.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/close-encounters/#comment-7346</link>
		<dc:creator>Braden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scott &lt;blockquote&gt;Neither of them are actual jokes. There are no punchlines, nothing at all to them other than making someone out to be smaller or less competent or just marking them, again, as “other.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that hits the nail on the head.  I grew up white, straight and male in a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; rural area, and ended up in big cosmopolitan cities.  I used to get alot of stuff like this from people and family back home, and responding the way lmb did is how I got most of it to stop and some of the people who sent it to think long and hard about why they were sending it on, and whether or not it was really funny.

I&#039;ve heard the theory that the only good &quot;insert racial/ethnic/regious group here&quot; joke is one where you really can insert any group into that slot and the joke still works, still has a punchline.  To do this it can&#039;t depend entirely on racial stereotypes.  I&#039;m not totally convinced that this theory accurately demarcates the line between &quot;off-color humor and outright racism&quot; but I think it might at least point to the region where that line lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scott<br />
<blockquote>Neither of them are actual jokes. There are no punchlines, nothing at all to them other than making someone out to be smaller or less competent or just marking them, again, as “other.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that hits the nail on the head.  I grew up white, straight and male in a <em>very</em> rural area, and ended up in big cosmopolitan cities.  I used to get alot of stuff like this from people and family back home, and responding the way lmb did is how I got most of it to stop and some of the people who sent it to think long and hard about why they were sending it on, and whether or not it was really funny.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard the theory that the only good &#8220;insert racial/ethnic/regious group here&#8221; joke is one where you really can insert any group into that slot and the joke still works, still has a punchline.  To do this it can&#8217;t depend entirely on racial stereotypes.  I&#8217;m not totally convinced that this theory accurately demarcates the line between &#8220;off-color humor and outright racism&#8221; but I think it might at least point to the region where that line lies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Close Encounters by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of when Tiger Woods was winning his first Masters, and Fuzzy Zoeller made an inappropriate crack referring to Tiger as &#039;boy&#039; and telling the media to &quot;tell him not to serve fried chicken next year.&quot;

Is it okay if I assume the role of humorless pedant?  (if only I could pretend that I&#039;m good at that role because I&#039;m a terrific actor)

Both the picture and Zoeller&#039;s comment are reactions to instances of a group of people in an isolated, insular community (pro golfers, occupants of the White House) suddenly having to accept something considered as &quot;other&quot; (with connotations of &quot;lesser&quot; and &quot;anathema&quot;) in their midst.  

Both are examples of a powerful element, a majority, being uncomfortable with suddenly having to play nice, to share the clubhouse.  It is, I think, a reaction born of fear.  A deplorable fear.

Neither of them are actual jokes. There are no punchlines, nothing at all to them other than making someone out to be smaller or less competent or just marking them, again, as &quot;other.&quot;  

Did you ever ask/get a response as to why the forwarder thought the image was worth forwarding?

I can understand the desire to lampoon the powerful, but there&#039;s nothing other than an asinine stereotype to tie watermelons with President-Elect Obama, and lampooning and satire without a specific connection to the target falls, at best, short of the mark.  

To move on to something else, I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s genuine pleasure in propagating racism, just like I doubt there&#039;s genuine pleasure in propagating sexism or homophobia.  Or if there is, it&#039;s the pleasure in control and assuring that the propagator is exerting the control, or is at least part of the group that&#039;s on top.  It [propagating a negative -ism] is an act of smallness, and like above, fear.  It&#039;s an act neither necessarily intentional nor conscious, it can be picked up from parents, friends, and media and transmitted while there&#039;s no critical thought about what, precisely, is being said, what that might mean, what the possible intent of phrasings and word choice might be.  

I think the maybe about having the racism exposed so close to you is why it was so affecting.  The sender blindsided you with this, no?  And I think that if you tried not to offend when you explained why you found the image offensive you did exactly the right thing.  Argumentation (in the debate/discussion sense) in good faith is good and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of when Tiger Woods was winning his first Masters, and Fuzzy Zoeller made an inappropriate crack referring to Tiger as &#8216;boy&#8217; and telling the media to &#8220;tell him not to serve fried chicken next year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it okay if I assume the role of humorless pedant?  (if only I could pretend that I&#8217;m good at that role because I&#8217;m a terrific actor)</p>
<p>Both the picture and Zoeller&#8217;s comment are reactions to instances of a group of people in an isolated, insular community (pro golfers, occupants of the White House) suddenly having to accept something considered as &#8220;other&#8221; (with connotations of &#8220;lesser&#8221; and &#8220;anathema&#8221;) in their midst.  </p>
<p>Both are examples of a powerful element, a majority, being uncomfortable with suddenly having to play nice, to share the clubhouse.  It is, I think, a reaction born of fear.  A deplorable fear.</p>
<p>Neither of them are actual jokes. There are no punchlines, nothing at all to them other than making someone out to be smaller or less competent or just marking them, again, as &#8220;other.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Did you ever ask/get a response as to why the forwarder thought the image was worth forwarding?</p>
<p>I can understand the desire to lampoon the powerful, but there&#8217;s nothing other than an asinine stereotype to tie watermelons with President-Elect Obama, and lampooning and satire without a specific connection to the target falls, at best, short of the mark.  </p>
<p>To move on to something else, I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s genuine pleasure in propagating racism, just like I doubt there&#8217;s genuine pleasure in propagating sexism or homophobia.  Or if there is, it&#8217;s the pleasure in control and assuring that the propagator is exerting the control, or is at least part of the group that&#8217;s on top.  It [propagating a negative -ism] is an act of smallness, and like above, fear.  It&#8217;s an act neither necessarily intentional nor conscious, it can be picked up from parents, friends, and media and transmitted while there&#8217;s no critical thought about what, precisely, is being said, what that might mean, what the possible intent of phrasings and word choice might be.  </p>
<p>I think the maybe about having the racism exposed so close to you is why it was so affecting.  The sender blindsided you with this, no?  And I think that if you tried not to offend when you explained why you found the image offensive you did exactly the right thing.  Argumentation (in the debate/discussion sense) in good faith is good and right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Close Encounters by Kristy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I don&#039;t know what to think.  It is a wacky email to forward and I can see the concern.  
Do you remember that photo from your former classmate that I posted?  The one with &#039;Hillary?&#039;   So, I thought that was funny - but it can also be considered sexist and policically incorrect.  
I do not find the watermelon patch funny. 
I venture without certainty the idea that perhaps if I were an African-American with my same sense of humor I&#039;d maybe find it funny - and I only mean me.  I easily laugh at myself and parts of my identity.  
On the other hand when my brother goes off on how women are the weaker sex biologically/physiologically speaking, my head explodes even though a tiny part of me thinks he&#039;s sort of right.  

Kristy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I don&#8217;t know what to think.  It is a wacky email to forward and I can see the concern.<br />
Do you remember that photo from your former classmate that I posted?  The one with &#8216;Hillary?&#8217;   So, I thought that was funny &#8211; but it can also be considered sexist and policically incorrect.<br />
I do not find the watermelon patch funny.<br />
I venture without certainty the idea that perhaps if I were an African-American with my same sense of humor I&#8217;d maybe find it funny &#8211; and I only mean me.  I easily laugh at myself and parts of my identity.<br />
On the other hand when my brother goes off on how women are the weaker sex biologically/physiologically speaking, my head explodes even though a tiny part of me thinks he&#8217;s sort of right.  </p>
<p>Kristy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Close Encounters by lmb</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I&#039;m looking forward to your comments on this post. But please don&#039;t make personal ones about the sender of the email: although her decision to forward it appalls me, she is not a horrible person, so don&#039;t go there. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I&#8217;m looking forward to your comments on this post. But please don&#8217;t make personal ones about the sender of the email: although her decision to forward it appalls me, she is not a horrible person, so don&#8217;t go there. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Entering Winter Hibernation Mode by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; less than balmy.  Even for January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, <i>that&#8217;s</i> less than balmy.  Even for January.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoe Junkies: I Need Your Help by Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of the brand Wolky, they have the support of Danskos (which don&#039;t fit me because I have a really high arch) and they come in lots of pretty versatile shapes.
Here is a link to the online shoes Wolky section:
http://www.onlineshoes.com/landing.asp?type=brand&amp;brandid=83
I own the strap clogs and LOVE them, but you might check out the Halia (in the slip on section), they look a bit like your old shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of the brand Wolky, they have the support of Danskos (which don&#8217;t fit me because I have a really high arch) and they come in lots of pretty versatile shapes.<br />
Here is a link to the online shoes Wolky section:<br />
<a href="http://www.onlineshoes.com/landing.asp?type=brand&amp;brandid=83" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineshoes.com/landing.asp?type=brand&amp;brandid=83</a><br />
I own the strap clogs and LOVE them, but you might check out the Halia (in the slip on section), they look a bit like your old shoes.</p>
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